Lindsey Kleinberg: Experiencing Nature, Creating Connection, and Healing

How can individuals integrate nature, education, art, and personal healing into creating positive change for themselves and their communities?

Lindsey Kleinberg advocates for nature play in the most important way; practicing what she preaches. She shares her experiences raising her family through alternative and nature education, and why it’s important to her. Lindsey describes the benefits home gardening, self-care, and how she approaches creating change. She discusses books, blogging, art, and what she hopes to achieve in her community.

When you’re really working on a personal journey, if you are making those steps for positive impact and change, people around you, whether or not they will admit, they start to feel those things.

~ Lindsey Kleinberg (44:22)

Lindsey Kleinberg is an educator, artist, avid gardener, and nature play advocate. She is the founder of the Finding Place LV, a Reggio-inspired micro school whose mission is to reconnect kids with nature. In addition to her Masters degree, Lindsey is certified  in many areas, including Nature-based outdoor education and School Garden Coordinator.

The conversation explores how integrating nature, art, and alternative education can foster healing and inspire positive change. Discussing the importance of organic gardening, Lindsey emphasizes the transformative effects of hands-on, sustainable practices in raising children. These practices encourage empathy, environmental stewardship, and a deep connection to the natural world.

Topics also touch on the role of art in healing, with examples of how creative activities—ranging from murals to gardening—can reconnect individuals to themselves and their communities. Lindsey advocates for simple actions, such as planting seeds or creating small garden spaces, to initiate broader personal and societal shifts. A recurring theme is the necessity of self-care to sustain these efforts, ensuring individuals remain grounded and effective in their pursuits.

Takeaways

Planting seeds of change — Small, intentional actions like gardening can have a profound impact on individuals and communities.

Self-care as a foundation — Addressing personal well-being is critical to sustaining efforts for broader change.

Nature as a teacher — Hands-on experiences in nature foster empathy, creativity, and resilience in children and adults.

Art and creativity — Engaging in art is a powerful tool for personal and communal healing.

The ripple effect of change — Personal growth and intentional practices can influence and inspire those around you.

Raising environmentally conscious children — Early exposure to sustainable practices helps develop lifelong habits of stewardship and care.

Balancing digital presence — While online tools can spread awareness, maintaining human connections remains essential.

Holistic education models — Integrating principles from Waldorf and Reggio Emilia philosophies creates dynamic, experiential learning environments.

Resources

Lindsey is the founder of The Finding Place Lehigh Valley

Lindsey’s recent blog post, searching for ‘home’.

Rodale Institute — A leader in regenerative organic agriculture and education.

Julian Is a Mermaid — A children’s book advocating for self-expression and creativity.

Kutztown University’s Program in Regenerative Organic Agriculture — Collaboration with the Rodale Institute to provide a unique degree program.

Waldorf: Environment as teacher, play, storytelling, natural learning

Reggio-Emilio, community learning, art, intergenerational

Let’s Play Books and Now and Then books

Book most often given away: Julián is a Mermaid, Jessica Love

Largest book: Hobbit/Lord of the Rings combo book, Welcome to the Museum series

Book you most want, but can’t get: Iwigara

Interactive art, Juxtahub

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Vitamin D

This might be the range most of us should expect to be in at an intake of 10,000 IU/d. This is the equivalent to the body’s own natural production through sun exposure.

There are other factors that may affect levels. For example, being overweight tends to reduce them. Excess cortisol production, from stress, may also reduce them.

~ Ned Kock from, What is a reasonable vitamin D level?

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…and some days this turns into a bit of a medical blog.

This is mostly a blog post for me, so the next time I search for Vitamin D I can find this article. When Vitamin D supplementation comes up, and I mention that I take 10,000 IU daily… people ask why? …and I cannot remember why. This article from 2010 is why; 10,000 IU is about how much vitamin D my body would make if I lived somewhere sunny and I was a life guard.

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Not grinding away

Critically, as Gribbin’s explains, during this period Galileo was also occupied in part by his success in “leading a full and happy life,” in which “he studied literature and poetry, attended the theatre regularly, and continued to play the lute to a high standard.” He was not, in other words, locked up, grinding away in relentless pursuit of results. Yet results are what he did ultimately produce.

~ Cal Newport from, On Pace and Productivity

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Everything wears down, wears out, and wears away. The light that burns twice as bright, lasts half as long. There are cautionary tales about the hedonic treadmill. The tortoise and the hare. The ant versus the oxen; I’ve always liked that aphorism from Lao Tzu.

Let’s grant that the ant walks a great distance, removes debris from the colony, and collects food for 10 ants. Meanwhile, the ox accomplishes nothing. But when he awakes refreshed from his nap, he can plow a field in a few hours. For comparison, how long will it take the ant to plow the field?

I’ve always liked that aphorism from Lao Tzu: It reminds me to always be the dozing Ox.

I am frequently asking myself two questions:

What would world-class look like?

Is this thing I just did world-class?

I may fall short— honestly I think I always fall short of executing world-class. That does not mean I stop asking those questions. That does not mean I stop trying. The mantra is not, “do more!” It’s not, “hurry up!” I am not alone in this thinking:

The constructive evaluation of activities, asset allocations, communications, policies, and procedures against purposes and intended outcomes has become increasingly critical for every organization I know of. The challenges to our companies continue to mount, with pressures coming these days from globalization, competition, technology, shifting markets, erratic economic swings, and raised standards of performance and production, making outcome/action thinking a required twenty-first-century behavior.

“What do you want to have happen in this meeting?” “What is the purpose of this form?” “What would the ideal person for this job be able to do?” “What do we want to accomplish with this software?” These and a multitude of other, similar questions are still sorely lacking in many quarters. There’s plenty of talk in the big meetings that sounds good, but learning to ask, “Why are we doing this?” and “What will it look like when it’s done successfully?” and to apply the answers at the day-to-day, operational level—that will create profound results.

~ David Allen, p272, Getting Things Done circa 1989

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Writing with Lovelace Cook

How can podcasting serve as a transformative tool for personal growth, cultural exploration, and creative reinvention?

Transitioning from memoir to fiction reshapes the creative journey of a writer.

I’m fascinated with the cultural differences, the difference between coming from a patriarchal society where there are arranged marriages to the western culture which is far more permissive.

~ Lovelace Cook (11:22)

The conversation highlights the impact of podcasting as a creative outlet, especially during a time of professional and personal challenges. It explores how podcasting offers a sense of balance, enabling the speaker to engage with writing, creativity, and self-expression. Starting from a marketing background, Lovelace integrates various media elements like a blog, podcast, and website into a cohesive brand identity.

The discussion also touches on cultural exploration, particularly through interviews with Indian-American authors. These interactions shed light on cultural contrasts, such as patriarchal norms and societal transitions, and their influence on writing and storytelling. Lovelace reflects on their evolving podcast journey, sharing insights about personal growth and community support through workshops and collaborative spaces.

Takeaways

Podcasting as a creative balance — It can provide structure and inspiration during challenging times.

Evolving creative projects — Ideas often transform significantly from their original conception.

Cultural storytelling — Examining cultural contrasts deepens understanding and enriches narratives.

Community support — Workshops and collaborative environments can significantly enhance creativity and growth.

Writing as a dynamic process — Switching from memoir to fiction can reshape perspectives and storytelling.

Persistence through challenges — Immigrant experiences often involve overcoming expected failures through determination.

Creative influences — Inspiration can come from unexpected sources, such as Bollywood films.

Gratitude for collaboration — Connections made through creative communities often inspire and sustain.

Resources

Joanna Penn’s podcast — A source of inspiration for starting a podcast.

StoryGrid Publishing — A community and methodology for revising novels.

Akimbo Workshops — Collaborative spaces for learning and creative growth.

Purple Lotus — Veena Rao’s novel that won awards and was featured in the podcast.

Scrivener — A tool used for organizing and revising writing.

Lovelace Cook on LinkedIn

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Growth with Brandon Douglass

What can be learned from reflecting on personal growth and authenticity through the lenses of podcasting and movement?

Exploring the intersection of self-expression and discipline through creative mediums.

Experimentation was key for me. And I think it’s just like, where are you finding the growth?

~ Brandon Douglass (13:04)

This conversation explores the themes of personal growth, authenticity, and creative expression, using podcasting and movement as central mediums. Topics include navigating the gap between public persona and authentic self, the therapeutic and self-reflective aspects of podcasting, and the challenges of overcoming fears both in movement and public speaking. Insights are shared on how the process of self-expression can foster understanding and self-awareness.

The discussion also covers practical aspects of podcasting, such as experimenting with formats, balancing consistency with creativity, and reflecting on past work to identify growth. A significant focus is placed on the importance of intentionality in creative practices and the value of embracing novel approaches to stand out in saturated fields. Movement is presented as both a physical and metaphorical language that enables exploration of different dimensions of self-expression.

Takeaways

The role of fear challenges in fostering personal growth — How embracing fear in movement and creative expression leads to growth.

The gap between public persona and authentic self — Reflections on how podcasting highlights this dynamic.

The therapeutic aspects of podcasting — Using podcasting as a tool for self-reflection and emotional processing.

Experimentation as a path to growth — The value of trying novel approaches to discover new insights.

The interplay of consistency and creativity — Challenging traditional content models to foster innovation.

Movement as a multidimensional language — Exploring different styles and expressions through physical practice.

The value of intentionality — Emphasizing meaningful and deliberate approaches in creative work.

Resources

Height Drop Podcast — A podcast focused on movement, culture, and personal growth.

MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani’s — A podcast format discussed as an inspiration for creative interview styles.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Fire

Stone tools were the first invention, dating back to the beginning of that 2.5-million year period, eventually including simple hand tools such as axes and spears. Maybe a million years later or more, other cavemen learned to control fire, and at some point began cooking their food. They lived in tribes, hunting and foraging together, possibly caring for their weak and infirm, and burying their dead. But other than stone tools, fire, and simple tribal behavior, they had almost nothing else, for most of that 2.5 million years—including at least 100,000 years or more of Homo sapiens existing.

~ Jason Crawford from, The beginning

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I often joke that there are three thing I can stare at endlessly: Fire, moving water, and other people working. And I’ve often expressed my theory that it’s the movement of those first two, (the third we’ll leave aside for today,) which is the key to holding my attention. Fire and water both dance semi-predictably; But not so predictably that the movement is easily ignored. There’s always just enough movement to hold my attention.

When I let the idea settle in that we’ve been staring at small fires—fires which literally represented warmth, safety, food and tribal companionship—for about a million years… Actually, a “million” is hard to apprehend. Let’s say, there are 25 years per generation. We’ve been staring at small fires for about 40,000 generations. No wonder I’m staring at this fire. We’ve evolved to be attracted to fire!

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Congratulations Mrs. Strohl!

My mom got married today—on her birthday, November 11th. She does read these emails, and so I hope she gets a little thrill when she comes back from her honeymoon.

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Rich with Danny van Leeuwen

What strategies and processes can be employed to create meaningful and impactful content across multiple mediums like audio, written material, and personal storytelling?

Transforming audio transcripts into coherent written materials bridges the gap for diverse audiences.

Each episode could be about twenty different things; well that’s just too much for listeners. What are the 2 or 3 that are really important?

~ Danny van Leeuwen (8:23)

The discussion highlights the transformative power of audio storytelling and podcasting, emphasizing how it blends personal experiences and creative expression. Danny shares how podcasting, rooted in a meaningful first episode, has evolved into a robust medium for engaging with diverse audiences. Topics include the emotional depth of storytelling, the challenges of starting with basic tools, and the gradual introduction of elements like music to enhance the audio experience.

The conversation also focuses on the interplay between audio and written mediums. Editing and transcribing episodes into readable formats are described as tools for refining ideas and engaging non-listening audiences. These efforts create reusable content for various purposes while accommodating different learning styles. Reflecting on audience diversity, Danny shares strategies for making episodes resonate across multiple perspectives, from caregivers to healthcare professionals.

Takeaways

The emotional resonance of storytelling — Personal narratives create impactful connections with audiences.

The evolution of podcasting workflows — Beginning with simple setups and improving over time fosters creativity and efficiency.

Balancing breadth and focus — Selecting a few key themes per episode ensures clarity for listeners.

The value of editing — Editing refines the content and deepens the creator’s understanding of the material.

Diverse audience engagement — Crafting content for varied learning styles and professional roles broadens impact.

Leveraging a content library — Written and audio archives provide a foundation for new projects and consulting work.

Personal reflection through editing — Revisiting conversations helps uncover insights and reinforce learning.

Honoring different learning modalities — Adapting content for readers, listeners, and other learning styles respects audience diversity.

The role of collaboration — Peer critique and support enrich podcasting skills and creativity.

Resources

Health Hats Blog and Podcast — Insights on healthcare and personal storytelling.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Writing with Annie Parnell

What unique experiences and challenges have shaped the transition of an indie author into podcasting?

An author navigates the intersection of creativity, technology, and self-promotion through podcasting.

What I realized was I needed to choose myself. Because there wasn’t anybody out there who was going to take a chance on me.

~ Annie Parnell (20:20)

The conversation focuses on the journey of an indie author who specializes in historical romantic suspense with a feminist perspective, as she ventures into podcasting. Annie shares the challenges of creating audiobooks independently and how those obstacles motivated her to adapt her storytelling into a podcast format. Her process is shaped by creative choices, such as incorporating Foley sound effects and dramatizing her narratives while recording.

A significant theme is the balance between self-reliance and community support. Annie discusses her reliance on feedback from a launch team and her willingness to share imperfections in her work. Additionally, she touches on broader cultural topics, such as fostering sisterhood and challenging adversarial narratives through her novels. These values influence both her writing and her decision to make her work more accessible through audio formats.

Takeaways

Creative adaptations — Transforming a book into a podcast allows for a unique storytelling format.

Technological challenges — Podcasting requires managing tools and technology, such as sound effects and recording setups.

Generosity in storytelling — Sharing creative work, even when imperfect, can foster stronger audience connections.

Themes of sisterhood — Promoting collaboration and support among women is central to the author’s work.

Self-reliance in publishing — Choosing to self-publish empowers authors who are overlooked by traditional channels.

Audience engagement — A private Facebook group supports the author’s promotional efforts and gathers feedback.

Learning from mistakes — Accepting and sharing errors is seen as a valuable growth opportunity.

Resources

Annie Parnell’s web site — Includes free short stories and information about her work.

“The Reluctant Countess” — First book in the author’s series, focusing on sisterhood and historical themes.

“Do No Harm” — A short story available as a free download on her website.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Only one !

Writing is hard. (I hear you besmirching my intelligence.) One thing I constantly struggle with is exaggeration and hyperbole. There’s an ancient Bill Cosby skit about Noah trying to collect the animals after building The Ark—”Two mosquitos… male? female?!” and an endless fight with the rabbits, “only two. ONLY TWO!” But this post is about my recent efforts to use only one ‘!’ per post. And you thought that was a stray space there in the title. In this post, I’ve only used one ‘!’ in my punctuation. (Quoted ‘!’ characters I’m accounting to the speaker’s quota. It’s my blog and I’ll make up the rules as I go along, thank-you-very-much.)

One dimension of writing which I find hard is getting the range of expression wide. Quiet in parts, so to speak… err… to write— middle-volume mostly, and just a wee dash of shouting like a Scotsman at level 11. Over on that shouting end, I find that when I’m shift-reaching-for-the-1-key more than once, it’s time to reign that high end in tad. All of which speaks to that old tip about awareness: That which gets measured, gets improved.

Another dimension of writing I struggle with is vocabulary: I get lost reading my dictionary. I get curious about pronunciation—don’t get me started about how dictionaries used to be prescriptive and now are simply lazily being descriptive—and I end up learning for the umpteenth time that hyperbole does not ever rhyme with the little mammal known as a vole. It’s always hyperbole like Brenda-Lee… And, somehow, I thought that the rhymes-with-Brenda-lee pronunciation was a different word that was something like some kind of poetry. Possibly because hyperbole actually does rhyme with poetry? And anyway, on my w-a-y to h-y-, with m-y magnifying glass, I stopped at “Hilbert space” when it caught my e-y-e at the top of another page, as it was said page’s final entry. (What? “n. [David Hilbert] (1911) : a vector space for which a scalar product is defined and in which every Cauchy sequence composed of elements in the space converges to a limit in the space.”) Rats! I forgot what I was talking about.

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Richard Feynman

I hesitated. “I’m sad because you’re going to die.”

“Yeah,” he sighed, “that bugs me sometimes too. But not so much as you think.” And after a few more steps, “When you get as old as I am, you start to realize that you’ve told most of the good stuff you know to other people anyway.”

~ Danny Hillis and Richard Feynman from, Richard Feynman and The Connection Machine – Long Now

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When I’m reading, pull-quotes leap out. It hard to catch the actual process, but what I think happens is that my mind free-associates to something that resonates. I think it’s the strength of the resonance that slams my attention onto the particular bit I’m reading. My mind races off along connections. It is rare that I read something through, and then think: “I should share this,” or, “I should write about this.” It is rare that I have to hunt around for something to quote; Rather it’s the usually metaphorical blinding flash, but sometimes visceral embodied flash, of the pull-quote that tells me I should share it.

After the third blinding flash of, “that’s a pull-quote I have to share,” I stopped counting. I spent an hour with this short read—it’s only a few minutes of reading. Over and over I was struck by some bit, and my mind raced off. Each time, delighted to see where I was going, and with no intention of reigning in my train of thought.

…but this bit that I pull-quoted — I really hesitated. It’s almost a bit of spoiler. I certainly hope you don’t feel like it’s a spoiler. I certainly hope you do go over and read it.

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Opportunities with Heat Dziczek

How can pursuing multiple creative passions and approaches shape personal growth and productivity in podcasting and beyond?

Balancing creative chaos with focus highlights the challenges and rewards of pursuing diverse passions.

[At] first I was like, ‘Oh, you know, I have these ninety seven ideas for a podcast.’ Okay, now I’ve got a whittled down to twelve, now I’ve got it whittled down to seven, now I’ve got four. I’ve got four ideas for a podcast and I was talking to a mastermind group that I have from a a workshop and they’re like, ‘Why don’t you just do all of them?

~ Heat Dziczek (3:01)

The conversation discusses the creative and practical aspects of podcasting, emphasizing the freedom to experiment with diverse ideas. Heat reflects on the challenge of narrowing down topics and deciding to integrate multiple themes into a single podcast. She shares the liberating realization that she can design her work in a way that aligns with personal goals rather than external expectations.

Another focus is personal growth, including learning to express positivity and overcoming negativity. Heat explains how this shift has influenced her creative pursuits and interactions. She also touches on balancing the pursuit of creative endeavors with financial sustainability, sharing insights into the complexities of monetizing passion projects without compromising their intrinsic value.

Takeaways

Integrating diverse ideas — Pursuing multiple creative threads in one project can be a source of innovation and fulfillment.

Learning positivity — Developing the habit of recognizing and expressing positive traits requires deliberate effort and can transform relationships.

Balancing creativity and practicality — Striking a balance between artistic passion and financial stability remains a recurring challenge for creators.

Freedom in podcasting — Podcasting offers flexibility to explore unique formats and ideas without rigid boundaries.

The influence of personal history — Past experiences and environments shape how individuals approach creative and interpersonal growth.

The power of gradual change — Incremental exposure to new ideas can lead to profound transformations over time.

The challenge of monetization — Making creative pursuits profitable often requires rethinking traditional approaches to work and income.

Resources

Buy Me a Coffee platform — Used by the speaker to accept support from podcast listeners.

Draft No. 4 — by John McPhee, referenced as an example of innovative narrative techniques.

Heat Dziczek on LinkedIn

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Potential with Boston Blake

What drives the unique satisfaction and challenges of creating and hosting a podcast focused on storytelling and community building?

Exploring myths and conversations showcases the depth of storytelling’s impact.

[S]o many people have incredible stories and incredible wisdom to share, and they just need a platform. But they’re scared to stand on the platform for whatever reason.

~ Boston Blake (12:01)

The conversation explores Boston’s experience with podcasting, emphasizing its rewards and challenges. Topics include the art of storytelling, the technical tools like Descript that streamline the editing process, and the fulfillment derived from creating platforms for diverse voices. Podcasting’s ability to provide meaningful connections during the isolation of the COVID-19 pandemic is also discussed, highlighting its unique role as a social outlet.

Additionally, the discussion dips into the difficulties of building and sustaining online communities, particularly for niche topics such as mythology. Boston shares insights on how podcasting acts as both a medium for personal growth and a means to empower others, while grappling with the challenges of audience engagement and creating dialogues beyond the episodes.

Takeaways

Storytelling in podcasting — A rewarding yet challenging way to share and explore myths, fairy tales, and personal narratives.

The impact of podcasting tools — Tools like Descript revolutionize podcast editing, enhancing clarity and listener engagement.

Creating platforms for others — Podcasting can serve as an empowering platform for individuals hesitant to share their stories.

Building online communities — Maintaining engagement in niche interest communities proves to be an ongoing challenge.

Social aspects of podcasting — Podcasting fosters connections and serves as a valuable social outlet, especially during isolating times.

Navigating technical challenges — Exploring various tools and platforms helps optimize the podcasting process.

Expanding audience reach — Finding effective ways to share podcasts with wider audiences remains a focus.

Resources

Descript — A podcast editing tool that simplifies workflows and improves audio clarity.

Canva — A design tool used for creating podcast cover art.

GoodPods — A social network platform for podcasters and listeners.

Twitter (Boston’s handle) — Twitter profile for updates and engagement.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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That escalated quickly

The answer from computer science is precise.

~ Stewart Brand from, Brian Christian, “Solving Hard Decisions” – Long Now

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‘When to stop’ is an insidiously difficult problem. Which has been solved. Whether or not you want to read that and learn some crazy heuristics, you already know the power of heuristics. They’re great when they work, until they don’t. So many Americans—whose heuristic is to glance left then step off the curb and then glance right—get wacked by cars in parts of London, they paint, “Look right,” in the street.

…which is great. Unless you’re Craig and your heuristic goes: Look left, look right, look left, and then step off. I look left, notice the words on the street, and look right. Then I go to look left, notice the words again… and look right, instead of left… then my brain screams OMGBECKY look left! Then I go to look left, notice the words again… and look right.

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The TV in the other room

It may surprise you that the words keep coming even if you’re not entertaining them, just as a TV program keeps showing itself to an empty room. You can always hear it carrying on, but it’s up to you whether to go in and sit on the couch.

~ David Cain from, How to Get out of Your Own Head

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Funny, but I don’t ever recall the TV being on in the other room. I certainly have spent a lot of time—that’s a vast understatement—directly sat before the TV. But somewhere somehow somewhen I must have developed the habit of turning it off when I left the room. Which strikes me as very odd.

No great epiphany here. Just: That strikes me as very odd.

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Play with Alyssa Serpa

What influences the balance between seriousness and playfulness in physical training and movement practices?

Physical challenges highlight the intricate relationship between personal growth and self-reflection.

I think that there is a lot of creativity for one— but also, just progression, that happens in the space of being playful, goofing around, and not taking your practice too seriously.

~ Alyssa Serpa (13:07)

The conversation focuses on the interplay of seriousness and playfulness in Parkour and how each can influence personal growth and training outcomes. Insights are shared on the importance of reflecting on one’s commitment to training and how shifting priorities shape practices. A nuanced discussion emerges around how environmental factors, such as the pandemic, have impacted community interactions and travel.

Another theme explored is the role of injuries in redefining one’s approach to physical movement. Recovering from injury led to creative exploration and a greater focus on playful practice. The dialogue underscores the importance of striking a balance between structured training and unstructured play, with a strong emphasis on the joy and personal autonomy gained through movement.

Takeaways

Balancing seriousness and playfulness — Finding the right mix enhances both enjoyment and progress in training.

Creativity in movement practices — Playful exploration can lead to unexpected growth and insights.

Physical activity and life balance — Staying active contributes to overall well-being and stress management.

Impact of travel on training — Travel fosters connections but also comes with costs like carbon footprint and financial strain.

Adapting through injury — Recovery periods can become opportunities for lateral growth and skill refinement.

Value of vulnerability — Allowing space for experimentation and failure encourages new possibilities.

Importance of community — Engaging with peers locally and internationally enriches the training experience.

Resources

@alyssa.serpa on Instagram

@AlyssaSerpa on YouTube

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Reflection with Joe Wehbe

How can podcasting be used as a reflective tool and integrated into personal and professional growth?

Understanding how solo podcasting can refine public speaking and storytelling skills.

I knew I wanted to start a podcast just because it was a great format. I was going to learn a lot, and it was going to be interesting to have conversations around a lot of things I care about and people’s perspectives.

~ Joe Wehbe (1:29)

The conversation explores podcasting as a medium for personal growth and professional integration. Joe describes how starting a podcast as a solo endeavor helped refine public speaking skills and brought clarity to his thoughts. The discussion emphasizes the iterative relationship between writing and podcasting, where written content often serves as a foundation for podcast topics and vice versa.

Joe shares insights on reflective practices, mentioning the interplay of writing, conversation, and podcasting as tools for self-awareness and development. He highlights the unique role of podcasting in creating reusable resources and fostering connections. The conversation also touches on feedback and audience engagement, illustrating the evolving nature of the podcasting space.

Takeaways

Creating solo podcasts — A method for practicing public speaking and concise communication.

Integration of podcasting — A way to blend personal interests with professional goals.

The role of writing — Writing serves as a foundational tool to clarify and organize ideas before podcasting.

Reflection in podcasting — Podcasting as a secondary draft to refine and communicate ideas.

Community building — Conversations foster network growth and deepen audience connections.

Audience engagement — Feedback is essential for refining podcasting formats and content.

Resource development — Podcasts can serve as a personal resource library for future reference.

Resources

Joe Wehbe’s web site

Seth Godin’s Podcast — A source of inspiration for adopting the “host-on-mic” format.

Notion — Used for organizing ideas and creating headings for blog and podcast content.

18 & Lost? — A collection of stories about life after high school, written by everyday people.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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3.5 each

I don’t know why, but I never learned to solve a Rubik’s Cube. I am exactly the right age; the durned things appeared on the scene just before I got to primary school and they were common in my high school. But I never got into it. I had one, of course. I pretty much immediately took it apart (very carefully) to see how it worked… just honestly curious about how it worked, not trying to solve it. When I put it back together, I put it together in the solved state because it seemed obvious that if I put it together randomly it couldn’t be solved by then trying to rotation-solve it as usual.

Aside: Yes, of course I did. Any time I found a cube, I’d surreptitiously mechanically detach and flip a few pieces, and then scramble it. Few people are good enough to quickly figure out what has happened.

…and then I never was interested in solving one after I understood how it worked. Tetris? Okay, yeah, that game ate years of my life—because you can’t solve it, you just do it. Anyway, I’m 50 and I just got a Rubik’s Cube.

And what am I doing? Measuring it: Let’s call it 2.2 inches on an edge. How many of them are there? Wikipedia says 350,000,000. Crap, that’s a lot of plastic. How big a pile is that? How big are 350,000,000 2-inch cubes? …and I was hoping Wolfram Alpha would give me units of Empire-State-Buildings or something. Instead, I learned something about the total number of Angels according to the Bible. (That should get you to click, no?)

What’s that? How many ESBs is it? …oh, sorry, it’s 0.0583 ESB. I know right? We’ve only 6% filled the ESB with Rubik’s Cubes?! We need to ramp up production.

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Belonging with Ric Lindberg

How do tools and human connections shape the development and success of online communities?

Successful communities depend more on leadership and shared purpose than on the platforms they use.

If you don’t have that previous experience that, ‘I’ve been this lost before and it’s okay.’ …or, ‘I have backups. It’s burning, but it’s okay.’ If you don’t have those experiences, poking the box is scary.

~ Ric Lindberg (5:34)

This conversation explores the complexities of building online communities, emphasizing the interplay between human connections and the technical tools used. A significant focus is placed on how platforms like Discourse serve as frameworks for fostering interaction, with insights on their benefits and challenges, including the learning curve for new users. Strategies for onboarding and engaging participants are highlighted as critical for a community’s success.

Another key topic is the balance between structure and organic growth in community dynamics. Practical examples discuss the importance of reducing barriers for new members while maintaining engagement among seasoned participants. Reflections on leadership and intentional design reveal how communities thrive not from technology alone but through careful cultivation of shared values and goals.

Takeaways

Removing barriers to participation — Encouraging exploration and minimizing the fear of making mistakes can boost engagement.

The importance of leadership — Effective communities require intentional design and ongoing support from leaders.

Learning curves in technology — New users face challenges in adapting to platforms, requiring thoughtful onboarding strategies.

Role of shared experiences — Building comfort through shared struggles and support strengthens community bonds.

Value of small groups — Intimate communities foster deeper connections and sustainable engagement.

Balancing free and premium content — Freely accessible resources attract users, while value-added services encourage financial support.

Evolving community needs — Successful communities adapt to meet the changing needs of their members.

Platform limitations — Tools like Discourse are beneficial but not sufficient without purposeful application.

Humanizing interactions — Real-time, informal meetups create stronger interpersonal connections among members.

Resources

Everything is Figureoutable — Marie Forleo’s book exploring a mindset of resilience and problem-solving.

Discourse (platform) — Open-source software used for building online communities.

Ric Lindberg on LinkedIn

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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