Addiction with Howard Gluss

What are the dynamics and challenges of balancing direct patient care with creative podcasting, and how does this balance influence the impact and approach in both fields?

Craig and Dr. Howard Gluss discuss the psychological impact of audio, from addiction and therapy to the intimate power of sound in storytelling.

My podcasting work is about my psychology work. It’s just an extension of who I am. It’s just a different arena I’m playing in […] A lot of times I don’t really care what the subject is, because [my goals is] to try to find the psychodynamics that are present in that subject. I try to go on a journey with my guests and look for those ‘aha’ moments where we’re both going, ‘Wow, that’s really interesting.’

~ Howard Gluss (9:30)

Craig and Dr. Howard Gluss explore the intersection of podcasting and psychology, focusing on how Dr. Gluss balances his work as a clinical psychologist with his creative expression as a podcaster. Dr. Gluss explains that while his sessions with patients are about being fully present for them, podcasting offers him an opportunity for self-expression. He sees both practices as interconnected, as the creativity and fulfillment he gets from podcasting positively impact his work with clients. Dr. Gluss also reflects on his approach to treating addiction, emphasizing the need to separate the person from their addiction to help them rebuild a life they enjoy, which may reduce the desire to self-destruct.

I do feel from a psychological and spiritual point of view that sound is very powerful. If you look at some of the Eastern religions, sound of ‘Om’—both in Buddhism, Hinduism—is so prevalent as a meditation […] To me, sound is very ancient. It’s very powerful. It’s very visceral, spiritual. It gets me very connected.

~ Howard Gluss (12:12)

They also discuss the psychological and spiritual power of sound, with Dr. Gluss drawing connections between ancient practices like meditation and the unique experience of audio in podcasting. He suggests that the medium of sound can be particularly intimate and impactful, engaging different aspects of the mind. The conversation touches on the challenges podcasters face when they lack feedback from their audience, which can lead to assumptions that may not be grounded in reality. Dr. Gluss notes that these assumptions can be influenced by the podcaster’s own insecurities, a topic that resonates with his work in psychology.

Takeaways

Balancing creative and clinical work — exploring how creative expression through podcasting complements clinical work and enhances personal well-being.

The psychology of addiction — treating addiction involves separating the person from their disease, allowing individuals to rediscover passions and build a life worth preserving.

The power of sound — audio, as a medium, taps into ancient spiritual and psychological connections, providing a unique form of engagement.

The intimacy of podcasting — podcasting allows for a personal, one-on-one connection with listeners, fostering a sense of closeness and authenticity.

Assumptions in communication — a lack of audience feedback in podcasting can lead to self-doubt and assumptions, often reflecting the podcaster’s own insecurities.

Therapy through telehealth — telehealth offers a different dynamic than in-person sessions, with both pros and cons in terms of connection and observation.

Audio’s impact on imagination — the absence of visuals in audio content allows listeners to fill in details themselves, leading to a deeply personal experience.

The challenge of perfectionism — podcasting can trigger perfectionist tendencies, with creators obsessing over details that may not significantly affect the outcome.

Cultural significance of sound — sound plays an important role in different cultures and religions, particularly in meditative and spiritual practices.

Resources

Daraknot Health — A concierge-style in-home treatment service specializing in addiction, depression, and anxiety, providing customized care in the client’s home.

Engaging Minds podcast — A psychology-focused podcast that explores various topics, hosted by a clinical psychologist.

Intimate Fame podcast — A series of audio dramas focusing on the lives of famous individuals, including Wallace Simpson, Marilyn Monroe, and James Dean.

Om meditation — A meditation practice rooted in Eastern religions, specifically Buddhism and Hinduism, that uses the sound “Om” as a spiritual tool.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Creatives with Tricia Rose Burt

How does one navigate the challenges of fostering creativity and sharing personal experiences through podcasting and storytelling?

The conversation explores how creative transformation impacts personal identity and professional pursuits.

I made a very drastic leap. I quit my job, sold my car, divorced my husband, and moved over to Ireland because I thought I needed to completely remove myself to start over as this artist.

~ Tricia Rose Burt (3:24)

The discussion centers on creative transformation and the courage required to embrace a life of artistic expression. Tricia shares her journey of leaving a conventional life to pursue a career as an artist and storyteller. She reflects on how discovering their creative identity in midlife reshaped their perspective and drove her to inspire others to take similar leaps.

The conversation also explores the challenges and rewards of podcasting as a medium for storytelling. Topics include the importance of maintaining focus on a central theme, the intimacy of podcasting, and the difficulties of not receiving immediate audience feedback. Practical strategies are discussed, such as tailoring content to serve the audience while balancing personal vulnerability with broader themes.

Takeaways

Transformative power of embracing a creative identity — how shifting to an artistic career can redefine life’s purpose.

Breaking away from conventional expectations — requiring significant personal and professional changes.

Central theme in creative work — guiding content choices and maintaining focus.

Courage required for new mediums — navigating unfamiliar processes like podcasting.

Value of storytelling — as a tool for connection and inspiring others to pursue creative paths.

Role of audience perspective — shaping how personal narratives are shared to serve others.

Balancing technical hurdles in podcasting — with a focus on authenticity and quality.

Resources

Tricia Rose Burt’s website — Contains her blog and links to her creative works.

How to Draw a Nekkid Man — A storytelling performance video by Tricia.

The Memoir Project — by Marion Roach Smith, a guide to writing memoirs, referenced for its advice on personal storytelling.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Editing with Robbie Swale

How do we navigate the balance between starting, sustaining, and stopping creative or personal endeavors?

The conversation examines the tension between perfectionism and the courage to share unfinished work.

It’s such a shame to have all these [things] on the shelves in the back of our minds or folders in our computers, all these things that we’ve kept back because they’re not perfect, or because we think they might not be right— We never know who will be changed by the things we make.

~ Robbie Swale (22:35)

The discussion covers challenges in managing creative processes and personal goals, focusing on a mission to appear on 100 podcasts. The complexities of handling output from such a challenge and the importance of deciding when to stop or persist are examined. This is tied to the broader question of balancing effort with strategic decisions in any endeavor.

Another key topic is overcoming perfectionism and fear of sharing creative work. Using quotes from poets and authors, the conversation emphasizes the importance of releasing work even if it feels incomplete. The necessity of starting projects and creating habits that reduce resistance to action is also highlighted. Tools like activation energy adjustments and reminders are presented as practical aids for staying focused and intentional.

Takeaways

Importance of starting — Even the hardest creative projects begin with the first step.

Navigating perfectionism — Releasing work imperfectly can still provide value to others.

Concept of “above or below the line” — A framework for self-awareness and decision-making.

Activation energy — Raising or lowering activation energy to influence habits effectively.

Sharing work — Withholding creativity can deprive others of valuable insights.

Practical tools for reflection — Using reminders and notifications to stay mindful.

The value of abandoning over-polishing — Deciding when a project is “good enough” to share.

Resources

The 15 Commitments of Conscious Leadership — by Jim Detmer, Diana Chapman, and Kaley Klemp; A guide to living with intentionality and focus.

The Practice — by Seth Godin; A book emphasizing the value of creativity and shipping work.

David Gemmell’s posthumously released books — Novels that captivated audiences even after the author’s passing.

The Quitting Quadrant — by Sara Wheeler; A tool to evaluate decisions about quitting.

Lead, Learn, Change Podcast — by David Reynolds; A podcast about education and leadership.

“Remind Me” and “Mind Jogger” — Apps for creating random notifications for mindfulness and presence.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Work ethic with Mark Tweddle

What are the challenges and strategies for managing the technical, creative, and promotional aspects of podcasting effectively?

Audio engineers are adapting traditional skills to modern tools like Descript, reshaping collaboration in podcasting.

There’s a value in the creative work, there’s a value in the hard work, there’s a value in story, there’s all these values about doing the thing, but what do you think having it be published would add for you?

~ Mark Tweddle (17:57)

The conversation covers challenges in podcast production, focusing on integrating traditional audio engineering with modern collaborative tools like Descript. Descript’s transcription and editing features facilitated collaboration for a multi-host podcast, enabling efficient feedback and editing processes. The discussion also explored the creative synergy between music, storytelling, and podcasting, particularly through the unique production dynamics of live recordings and audience interactions.

Another major topic is the difficulty of balancing creative work with the practicalities of podcast promotion. Despite producing compelling content, finding the right audience and ensuring the podcast reaches them is a persistent challenge. Mark reflects on how personal values and satisfaction drive creative efforts, questioning what publishing adds to the creator’s sense of accomplishment.

Takeaways

Evolving role of tools — Collaborative podcast production and tools can streamline feedback and editing processes.

The challenges of transitioning from virtual to live podcast recordings — live shows demand different preparation and adaptability.

The importance of storytelling in various mediums — storytelling connects creators and audiences through shared narratives.

The intersection of music and podcasting — creative integration of music can enhance storytelling and audience engagement.

The difficulty of podcast discovery and audience targeting — even high-quality content may struggle to find its ideal listeners.

Balancing creative and technical demands — creators need to manage their time and energy effectively.

The role of pre-planning in podcasting — effective preparation ensures smoother production, particularly for live events.

Resources

Descript — A transcription and editing tool for podcasts and audio production.

Sauce Productions — Neil Harrington’s audio production company, specializing in podcasts and advertising.

Intimate Fame Podcast — A dramatized podcast focusing on historical figures; upcoming episodes explore Marilyn Monroe and Wallace Simpson.

Hindenburg Pro — Audio editing software for podcast production.

Edinburgh Festival — Venue for live podcast recordings discussed in the conversation.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Opportunity with Gabriella Pitman

How can content creators balance the need for consistency and momentum with the risk of burnout and the desire to create meaningful, sustainable work?

The conversation unpacks the delicate balance between consistency and creative freedom for podcasters.

There is a certain amount of spaciousness in your mind in your emotions in your physical mental space. You need to have that kind of openness that emptiness in order for ideation to occur.

~ Gabriella Pitman (5:37)

The conversation explores the nuanced relationship between creative consistency and personal well-being in podcasting. Challenges such as burnout, audience engagement, and maintaining momentum without overextending oneself are discussed. Reflections on the publishing schedule reveal that rigid adherence to routines can detract from the joy and authenticity of creating. Gabriella highlights the importance of stepping back to recharge and regain inspiration.

A significant portion of the discussion centers on the evolving metrics and expectations in podcasting, particularly how creators can navigate audience demands without succumbing to the pressure of frequent publishing. Gabriella and Craig emphasize the value of intentionality in creative work and the necessity of pacing content creation according to personal capacity and audience needs.

Takeaways

Balancing momentum — Maintaining creative momentum is valuable but must not lead to overextension or burnout.

Importance of spaciousness — Openness and mental space are essential for creativity and ideation.

Publishing frequency — Audience engagement does not necessarily require constant content output; intentional pacing can be more impactful.

Resistance as a signal — Resistance can indicate either a need for persistence or a deeper issue requiring change.

Podcasting metrics — Traditional metrics like download counts and schedules are not the sole indicators of success or audience impact.

Resources

South by Southwest — Mentioned in relation to live concerts and content creation opportunities.

Seth Godin’s Blog — Referenced for its consistent publishing practice and influence on creators.

Spotify — Discussed as a podcast platform that influences engagement metrics.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Preparation with Catherine Jaeger

What are the challenges and strategies for transitioning a podcast to include a co-host while maintaining quality and authenticity?

A podcaster shares insights on balancing spontaneity with preparation.

You know, the magic [is] in the bottle as some jazz musicians say, right? Getting that group together, so that you can really have that spark and both drive the conversation forward.

~ Catherine Jaeger (11:40)

The conversation focuses on a podcaster transitioning to a co-hosted format. Topics include the challenges of adapting to a new medium, the steep learning curve of conducting engaging interviews, and the importance of pre-planning versus spontaneity in creating authentic content. Catherine reflects on their journey of podcasting, emphasizing the significance of balancing preparation and minimal editing to capture the essence of conversations.

Additionally, the discussion explores time constraints and their impact on the podcast format, highlighting the benefits of short, focused episodes for both creators and listeners. Other themes include building rapport with co-hosts, managing roles during conversations, and learning from various interviewing styles. Catherine also acknowledges the role of improvisation and intentional experimentation in evolving their craft.

Takeaways

Podcasting as a new medium — adapting from marketing to audio storytelling.

Role of co-hosts — strategies for balancing dynamics and responsibilities.
Interviewing as an art — methods to bring out guests’ best stories.

Time constraints — fostering creativity and focus in shorter formats.

Audience consideration — balancing guest comfort and listener engagement.

Emergent structure — allowing conversations to flow naturally while retaining intent.

Improvisation and spontaneity — borrowing from jazz and theater techniques to create spark.

Preparation styles — individual vs. collaborative approaches to co-host planning.

Resources

David Axelrod podcast — An example of skilled, long-form interviewing.

Auphonic — Mentioned in the context of audio editing and credits.

Jazz improvisation techniques — Inspiration for dynamic and emergent conversation styles.

Podcasting course — by Akimbo; Influential in shaping Catherine’s podcasting approach.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Drive with Ben Moreno

What experiences and insights shaped the transition from video to audio storytelling?

A podcaster’s journey uncovers the nuances of voiceover work and audio engineering.

It just puts you down back to the ground and reflect how quick it happened. I had a bad car accident, and it almost took my life.

~ Ben Moreno (22:48)

The conversation explores Ben’s creative evolution from photography to video production, and eventually to podcasting and voiceover work. This journey was driven by personal milestones, such as the birth of his daughter, and technical challenges, particularly in achieving quality audio for video projects. Craig and Ben discuss the differences in audio storytelling, including the unique demands of podcasting and audiobooks.

Ben shares a deeply personal story of a life-altering car accident, which led to reflection on priorities and values. Stoicism and daily Bible reading play significant roles in their life, providing a philosophical and spiritual foundation. Technical details about microphones and recording setups illustrate their passion for audio production, while their foray into narrating audiobooks highlights their continuous pursuit of creative challenges.

Takeaways

Creative transitions — Moving from photography to video and podcasting as a medium for storytelling.

Technical growth — Overcoming challenges in audio quality and exploring different tools for production.

Personal philosophy — The integration of stoicism and daily spiritual practices as guiding principles.

Adapting to challenges — Building a professional setup from limited resources.

Life lessons — A near-death experience leading to deeper reflections on priorities and faith.

Voiceover insights — The complexities and technicalities of narrating audiobooks.

Resources

Talk Active Podcast — A podcast encouraging the practice of wisdom, courage, justice, and moderation.

ACX — Platform owned by Amazon for audiobook creation and distribution.

Zoom H6 Recorder — A portable audio recorder often used in podcasting and voiceover work.

Rode Microphones — Discussed as a preferred brand for podcasting and voiceover.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Collaboration with Cassandra Ellis

How can the experience of working collaboratively in podcasting inform and enhance creative and personal growth?

Supporting others’ podcasting journeys can provide surprising insights into personal creativity.

Listening to that has led me to situations and experiences and people that make—that have me feeling uncomfortable in a good way, uncomfortable in a, ‘Oh, this is the next thing.

~ Cassandra Ellis (19:52)

The discussion emphasizes the importance of relationships in fostering creativity and collaboration, especially in the context of podcasting. Cassandra shares insights about hosting a “creativity potluck,” an event that inspired a collaborative partnership in supporting another’s podcast project. This interaction highlights the value of seeing creative work as part of an artistic continuum rather than a solitary task.

The conversation also explores how discomfort can be a catalyst for growth, urging creators to lean into challenges and follow their intuition. Recognizing podcasting as a relationship-driven process rather than an isolating endeavor provides a framework for discovering blind spots, whether technical, emotional, or creative. The exchange advocates for embracing small acts of courage and openness to serendipity.

Takeaways

Relationships in creativity — Learning happens best in connection with others or with non-human elements like nature.

The value of discomfort — Growth often comes from stepping outside one’s comfort zone.

Collaborative roles — Reframing roles as partnerships enhances creative dynamics.

Continuum of creativity — Podcasting and similar endeavors are part of broader artistic expressions.

Intuition and serendipity — Listening to internal cues can guide transformative decisions.

Blind spots in podcasting — Identifying personal or professional gaps can lead to better outcomes.

Interpersonal growth — Supporting others fosters unexpected self-discovery.

Resources

Virtual birthday creativity potluck — An event concept designed to celebrate and share creativity among participants.

Support groups for newsletters — Initiatives that focus on helping individuals develop and maintain email newsletters.

Rule Breakers Support Group — A renamed initiative encouraging people to rethink self-imposed rules, especially in business.

Podcasters’ collaborative retreats — A concept where podcasters meet to share ideas and develop creative projects together.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Transitions with Jessica Burdett

How can podcasting be used as a tool for exploring personal and professional transitions?

Exploring the potential of podcasting reveals its role in both research and personal discovery.

Transitions for me are about spaces of change. And they are exciting to me because there’s movement happening and so the fact that there is movement happening means that if you lean into the movement. You can have a lot of really lovely things come out of it.

~ Jessica Burdett (11:19)

The conversation explores how podcasting can serve as a medium for both personal and professional growth. Jessica discusses the role of podcasting in fostering creativity, allowing space for exploration, and potentially contributing to developmental research in coaching. She reflects on how podcasting can help capture stories that provide insights into transitions and identity development.

A significant focus is placed on transitions as moments of change and growth. Jessica shares her fascination with these periods, emphasizing their potential for identity formation and the role of coaching in navigating such changes. The conversation also touches on Jessica’s evolving perspective on auditory learning, noting how podcasting has helped her recognize new learning strengths and opportunities.

Takeaways

Podcasting as a creative space — Its flexibility supports exploratory learning and creativity.

Transitions and identity — They offer a unique opportunity for growth and identity development.

Story-based research — Exploring stories can reveal patterns and trends in human behavior and transitions.

Coaching and transitions — Coaching methods can align well with navigating periods of change.

Auditory learning growth — Podcasting enhances listening skills and expands learning modalities.

Challenges in academic exploration — Researching underexplored areas like transitions in coaching poses unique challenges and opportunities.

Resources

Brené Brown — Known for her work in story-based research, particularly in vulnerability and courage.

Babble concept — A metaphor for creative thinking and learning, highlighting the iterative process of refining ideas.

Polish proverb — “Not my circus, not my monkeys,” illustrating detachment from external stressors.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Editing with Christi Cassidy

How does expertise in book editing influence podcast production and storytelling?

Podcasting challenges traditional storytelling approaches from book editing.

It’s hard finding that story, and everybody of course talks about it— all the [professionals], you know, in their newsletters and books— and I’m like where is it? Where is it?! Help me out. I know it’s here somewhere.

~ Christi Cassidy (6:30)

The conversation centers on the relationship between book editing and podcast production. It explores how skills in editing text, such as identifying verbal tics and structuring content, translate to editing podcasts. A notable challenge is finding a coherent story arc within the fluid and nonlinear format of audio conversations.

Further discussion touches on the creative aspirations for podcasting, including integrating layered audio elements such as music and sound effects to enrich the listener’s experience. The practicalities of podcast artwork and the psychological impact of visual elements in audio media are also examined.

Takeaways

Editing techniques from books — help identify and remove verbal tics in podcasts.

Finding story arcs in podcasts — remains a challenge despite parallels with book editing.

Creative ambitions in podcasting — include layering sound and voices for richer audio.

Visual elements in podcasts — serve as a crucial bridge between social media and audio platforms.

Hardwired human tendencies — show strong attraction to visuals, like faces and album art.

Practicalities of production — involve balancing creative desires with technical realities.

Resources

Moving Along podcast — Hosted by Christi Cassidy, available on major platforms like Apple Podcasts and Google Podcasts.

Descript — A software tool for podcast editing, utilized for transcript-based workflows.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Expectations with Jam Mayer

How do different communication mediums influence engagement and interaction in personal and professional settings?

Exploring the interplay between technology, generational habits, and learning styles shapes the dynamics of modern communication.

There is a little bit of a disconnect because there’s that expectation from a generation that says you have to show yourself on video, but the digital natives… don’t care.

~ Jam Mayer (4:33)

The conversation explores the nuanced ways communication mediums affect engagement. It contrasts the experience of in-person training with digital formats, highlighting the energy and connection possible in face-to-face settings versus the challenges posed by video calls. Generational differences in behavior and expectations are examined, with older generations often emphasizing visible engagement and digital natives demonstrating a more relaxed approach.

The discussion goes into the dynamics of online communities, particularly challenges in making platforms user-friendly for diverse engagement styles. Jam and Craig address the difficulty of translating podcast audiences into other forms of interaction and consider strategies for creators to adapt content for various mediums, ensuring accessibility for their audience’s preferences.

Takeaways

Choosing communication mediums — dependent on personal learning styles and context.

Generational differences — younger audiences are more comfortable with digital flexibility.

Energy in interactions — stronger in-person connections compared to digital ones.

Podcast audience behavior — challenges in transitioning listeners to other platforms.

Community space design — balancing simplicity with features for proactive users.

Adaptability for creators — experimenting with multiple formats increases engagement potential.

Resources

Jam Mayer on LinkedIn — Jam Mayer’s preferred platform for professional connections.

Discourse — a community platform with customizable homepage settings.

Reddit — mentioned as a highly active online forum illustrating user engagement challenges.

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Emergence with Corey Schlosser-Hall

How does podcasting facilitate personal growth and the exchange of insights?

Podcasting invites both hosts and listeners into transformative spaces of thought.

Doing this work can be playful… and giving others the opportunity to listen in when insight happens is a pretty cool thing.

~ Corey Schlosser-Hall (19:11)

The conversation explores the multifaceted nature of podcasting, particularly its potential to create and share insights. Corey reflects on his podcast “On the Verge,” which captures moments of inspiration before they manifest into tangible outcomes. Craig and Corey discuss how meaningful exchanges in conversational formats provide fertile ground for reflection and personal growth.

They also examine the concept of “emergence” in communication, debating whether conversations simply elicit pre-existing knowledge or foster the creation of new ideas. They agree that podcasting serves as a unique medium for these emergent moments, with its challenges and rewards—including the variety of approaches it enables, from intimate dialogues to larger production endeavors.

Takeaways

Capturing inspiration — Moments before ideas become tangible can be deeply insightful.

Insight through dialogue — Conversational podcasts enable reflective and emergent thinking.

Creative challenges — Balancing pre-recording, live recording, and post-production has unique rewards and difficulties.

Emergence in communication — Interactions can construct new meaning rather than just reveal existing thoughts.

Playfulness in podcasting — Creating and sharing content can feel enjoyable and spontaneous.

Adaptability — Different podcast formats and experiences provide ongoing opportunities for growth.

Ownership transitions — Navigating podcast ownership when shifting organizations poses challenges.

Resources

On the Verge podcast — Focuses on capturing moments of invisible inspiration before they become visible.

Calendly — Scheduling tool used for organizing podcast interviews.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Fellowship with Howard M

How does the podcast “Seasons of Sobriety” explore the journey and challenges of long-term sobriety?

The process of creating a podcast about sobriety becomes a lesson in embracing imperfection.

If you try to have the perfect podcast you go perfectly insane.

~ Howard M (11:43)

The conversation explores the creation and purpose of the podcast Seasons of Sobriety, which focuses on the experiences of individuals with long-term sobriety. Howard discusses the challenges of finding guests with extensive recovery time and the deeper layers of personal growth required beyond abstaining from alcohol. He emphasizes the importance of sharing stories that can inspire others to believe recovery is possible.

The discussion also touches on podcast production, including the difficulties of editing, embracing imperfection, and maintaining creative integrity without monetization. Themes of connection and fellowship arise as critical elements, not just in recovery but also in the podcasting journey. Howard views his work as a contribution to the recovery community, aiming to foster hope and connection.

Takeaways

Creating a podcast — embracing imperfection and focusing on the message rather than technical perfection.

Long-term sobriety — exploring the deeper challenges beyond simply not drinking.

Fellowship and connection — highlighting their importance in recovery and creative work.

Curating podcast guests — focusing on individuals with decades of sobriety to provide unique insights.

Personal growth — the continuing journey and layers of change required in recovery.

Non-commercial podcasting — viewing the podcast as a charitable contribution rather than a business.

Resources

Seasons of Sobriety podcast — A podcast focusing on long-term sobriety stories.

Seth Godin’s Akimbo and workshops — Courses and content inspiring podcast creation.

Simplecast — Podcast hosting platform used by Howard.

Penn & Teller’s performances — Referenced for insights into embracing imperfection.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Play with Mary Hendra

What role does play have in professional spaces, and how can podcasting facilitate conversations about it?

Podcasting serves as a gateway to deeper dialogue about human connection and creativity.

I wanted to talk with people who brought play into their professional spaces in part because of the tension between the fun of play and the resistance from others saying, ‘If you want to succeed professionally, you have to be more serious.’

~ Mary Hendra (3:28)

The conversation centers around podcasting as a medium for creating meaningful dialogue and exploring deeper themes, particularly the concept of play in professional settings. Mary shares her journey into podcasting, explaining how an interest in intimate, conversational formats led to creating a podcast about integrating play into work environments. She discusses how play fosters authenticity and challenges societal norms around professionalism.

The discussion also goes into the technical and emotional aspects of podcasting, including preparing questions, handling unexpected moments, and maintaining natural conversations despite the constraints of recording. Mary shares insights from their experience interviewing diverse guests and reflects on how play transforms professional interactions and personal development.

Takeaways

Play in professional spaces — Play challenges traditional workplace norms and fosters authenticity.

Podcasting as a learning tool — Hosting a podcast provides opportunities to explore new topics and engage with diverse perspectives.

Conversation dynamics — Asking visceral, open-ended questions can create relaxed and meaningful dialogue.

The role of preparation — Balancing structured questions with spontaneous conversation enhances podcast quality.

Play and societal expectations — Discussing play uncovers tensions between fun and societal demands for seriousness.

Podcasting challenges — Navigating technical and interpersonal hurdles helps improve the craft of interviewing.

Authenticity through play — Play helps individuals reconnect with their true selves and approach challenges with clarity.

Resources

Mary Hendra’s Website — Contains links to her work, podcast updates, and details about her projects.

Lead with a Dash of Play Podcast — A podcast focused on the intersection of play and professionalism, launching soon. Will be linked on Mary’s website.

Hindenburg Editing Software — Mentioned as a tool for post-production in podcasting.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Collaboration with Sean Mallary

What motivates people to engage with storytelling, both as creators and participants, in different formats like podcasting and lighting?

A lighting designer reflects on the parallels between creating ambiance for theater and producing audio stories.

I joke with people that I still know in that industry and I’m like I did lighting for 20 years and now I’m calling myself a sound guy I don’t know what the heck is going on.

~ Sean Mallary (22:45)

The conversation explores the intersections of storytelling, personal connections, and technical expertise, primarily through the lens of podcasting and lighting design. Sean shares his preference for working behind the scenes, explaining that producing and editing align more closely with his personality. He also recounts transformative experiences as a Lyft driver, discussing the vulnerability of passengers and the inspiration it provided for creative projects.

Another key topic is the balance between personal growth and professional roles. Sean reflects on how interviewing strangers has enhanced his communication skills, contrasting this with his previous career in lighting, where collaboration took center stage. The importance of community emerges as a recurring theme, with the Akimbo workshop highlighted as a space for connection and skill-sharing in the otherwise solitary pursuit of podcasting.

Takeaways

The value of storytelling — stories create connections and reveal universal truths across different mediums.

The draw to behind-the-scenes roles — producing and editing offer unique creative fulfillment.

Personal growth through podcasting — interviewing strangers builds confidence and communication skills.

Connections through driving — interacting with passengers provided inspiration for storytelling formats.

Challenges of isolation in creative work — podcasting often lacks the collaborative spirit of theater.

Influence of storytelling icons — classic shows like This American Life set aspirational benchmarks.

Community as a support system — forums like Akimbo offer vital encouragement and perspective.

Theatrical roots in audio production — parallels between stage lighting and podcasting emerge in storytelling techniques.

Resources

Where Did I Get Like This — A podcast exploring nomadic childhood experiences.

Radiolab — A show blending science and storytelling.

Reply All — A podcast about modern life and technology.

This American Life — Iconic storytelling and narrative journalism.

Akimbo Workshops — A community-driven platform for creative learning.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Storytelling with Doug Thompson

What strategies and experiences contribute to effective storytelling and meaningful conversation?

Effective storytelling bridges gaps between technical concepts and emotional connections.

Listening is not just on the surface—it’s listening to what they’re telling you, what’s going on, and then doing the number one rule in Improv: yes, and.

~ Doug Thompson (32:58)

The conversation focuses on the art of storytelling, touching on its unconscious development and practical applications in fields like sales and communication. Doug shares his early experiences in radio and technology sales, which helped him refine his ability to craft and adapt stories to connect with diverse audiences. He reflects on storytelling as both a natural inclination and a skill honed through practice.

The discussion also explores tools for storytelling, such as improvisation training and active listening. Doug highlights the importance of understanding an audience’s needs, using relatable language, and adapting narratives to resonate effectively. He discusses the neurological basis for storytelling, emphasizing its role in human connection and memory. The talk concludes with advice on encouraging others to embrace storytelling through interactive activities and social engagement.

Takeaways

Storytelling as a skill — It can be unconsciously developed but refined through deliberate practice.

Improv training — Teaches adaptability, active listening, and the “yes, and” approach.

Neurological basis of storytelling — Stories engage emotions and enhance memory retention.

Adapting stories for audiences — Tailoring language and context to resonate with listeners.

Challenges of modern communication — Technology and brief formats can hinder storytelling skills.

Encouraging storytelling practice — Improv classes, social events, and podcasts as gateways.

Resources

Wired for Story — by Lisa Cron, explores the neurological basis of storytelling and its effectiveness in communication.

Toastmasters International — Provides structured opportunities to practice public speaking and storytelling skills.

Doug Thompson Podcast — Focuses on storytelling and related topics; undergoing rebranding.

Doug Thompson on LinkedIn — Connects with storytelling insights and professional activities.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Space with Lorraine Margherita

How can curiosity and conversation techniques enhance personal and professional dynamics?

This conversation explores how curiosity fuels both learning and the sharing of insights in professional settings.

My brother used to tell me, ‘They asked you, just say you don’t know,’ and I was like: What? No! I’m going to look for the Answer.

~ Lorraine Margherita (3:11)

The discussion begins with reflections on curiosity and its role in personal and professional growth. Lorraine shares her passion for learning and how this trait influences their consulting and podcasting work. The conversation goes into how decision-making frameworks like flat or teal organizational models can benefit from fostering a culture of curiosity.

Attention shifts to techniques for facilitating meaningful interactions, with a focus on balancing agenda-driven sessions and the organic needs of participants. Tools like the talking stick and the deliberate use of silence are explored as methods to enhance communication and collaboration. Lorraine and Craig also examine the challenges of creating space for authentic dialogue while maintaining productive boundaries.

Takeaways

Curiosity and learning — Curiosity can drive personal and professional growth by encouraging exploration and sharing of knowledge.

Facilitation techniques — Tools like the talking stick and controlled silence can significantly improve group dynamics.

Balancing structure and flow — Effective facilitation requires adapting to group needs while respecting time and objectives.

Decision-making in organizations — Frameworks like flat or teal models benefit from creating spaces for open dialogue.

Silence as a tool — Silence can deepen conversations and encourage thoughtful participation.

Storytelling in consulting — Sharing relatable stories can spark curiosity and engagement among clients.

Resources

The StrengthsFinder test — A tool to identify personal strengths, particularly for learners.

The Little Book of Circle Processes — A method for collaborative conversations without hierarchy.

The Co-Dynamics podcast — Focused on decision-making in organizations, particularly flat and teal

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Influence with Robyn Triggs

What are the challenges and rewards of starting and maintaining a podcast, and how can podcasting serve as a medium for personal and therapeutic expression?

Exploring the unexpected emotional connections created through podcasting.

There’s something to be said for the beauty of, oh, this person really doesn’t actually need an answer; what they really just need is another person to go, I see you, I see this struggle, I acknowledge the struggle is real.

~ Robyn Triggs (9:52)

The conversation explores the personal and emotional dimensions of podcasting. Topics include imposter syndrome, the experience of creating a podcast, and the choice to step back when priorities shift. It highlights how feedback from others, especially moments of profound resonance with listeners, can reaffirm the value of one’s work. The therapeutic aspect of podcasting, including the opportunity to process emotions and connect with an audience, emerges as a recurring theme.

The discussion also touches on the practicalities of podcasting, such as starting with minimal resources and deciding whether to publish episodes. The idea of podcasting as a platform for authenticity and vulnerability resonates throughout, with the emphasis on how sharing personal experiences can foster connection and healing, both for the creator and their audience.

Takeaways

Facing imposter syndrome — A common challenge for podcasters, even after multiple experiences.

Therapeutic expression — Podcasting allows creators to process and share emotions in a safe space.

Impact on listeners — Even a single listener connecting deeply with an episode can be profoundly rewarding.

Vulnerability in content creation — Authenticity and raw emotion can make podcasts uniquely impactful.

Practical barriers — Podcasting is accessible with minimal equipment, but confidence to publish can be a hurdle.

Feedback dynamics — Constructive criticism varies in value depending on its source and context.

Personal prioritization — Balancing podcasting with other life goals is essential for sustained creativity.

Value of connection — Podcasts can create meaningful relationships and shared understanding.

Resources

Seth Godin — Referenced for his insights on content creation and audience engagement.

The Podcaster Community — A platform supporting independent podcast creators.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Exploration with Matthew Jensen

What insights can be shared about the dynamics, challenges, and benefits of podcasting with a cohost?

Exploring the chemistry between cohosts unveils the intricacies of dynamic podcasting.

I think that I like to push Mike a little bit more, to share what he thinks about, because Mike views himself as maybe more the host that ask the questions and I like the back and forth. Just because he’s not necessarily a subject matter expert— I think that brings out kind of our best conversations when he’s actively learning something or has a different perspectives on stuff.

~ Matthew Jensen (12:41)

The discussion focuses on the dynamics of cohosting a podcast, highlighting the challenges of adapting to another person’s style while discovering the benefits of shared perspectives. Topics include how collaboration shapes the content, from deciding themes to incorporating listener questions. The importance of free-flowing conversations that capture authentic dialogue is emphasized.

The podcast’s community engagement is also explored, with feedback from listeners and support from fellow podcasters enriching the creative process. The conversation includes reflections on rapport-building, fostering shared learning experiences, and leveraging tools like question submission forms to drive interaction. The role of community in demystifying podcasting and offering practical support is acknowledged as a valuable resource.

Takeaways

The benefits of cohosting — Sharing perspectives can enrich podcast discussions.

The value of preparation — Expertise and curiosity create a balanced dialogue.

Listener engagement — Feedback and questions enhance content relevance.

Community support — Connecting with fellow podcasters provides inspiration and solutions.

Improvisational dynamics — Spontaneous discussions foster authentic interaction.

The importance of rapport — Strong interpersonal relationships add depth to conversations.

Technological challenges — Audio quality and video complexities impact production.

Experimentation in format — Trying new approaches, such as live Q&A, expands possibilities.

Resources

The New Next — A podcast discussing current events and their future implications.

Knowledge for Caregivers podcast — A podcast offering insights and tips for caregivers, referenced for its quality and feedback value.

Libsyn — A platform used for hosting podcasts, such as “The New Next”.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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Awareness with Dori Fern

How can one effectively initiate and navigate meaningful conversations about race to foster understanding and progress?

Exploring the “messy middle” of personal change brings an unfiltered lens to life’s transformations.

A lot about this time in my life has been to move towards deeply important things where I think I can make a difference.

~ Dori Fern (29:52)

The conversation begins with reflections on a podcast project about navigating the “messy middle” of life transitions. This project explores the emotional and logistical challenges faced during significant changes, particularly focusing on authenticity and openness rather than expertise. Conversations also touch upon societal issues such as race and inclusion, emphasizing the need for candid dialogues to address personal biases and systemic inequities.

A significant part of the dialogue explores the challenges of initiating meaningful conversations about race. Dori recounts personal experiences, including the hypocrisy observed in progressive circles and the transformative impact of diverse friendships. These experiences inform a commitment to fostering understanding and purpose, particularly through confronting difficult topics and engaging with varied perspectives.

Takeaways

Moving towards purpose — Emphasizing the importance of focusing on deeply meaningful issues in middle age.

Confronting hypocrisy — Highlighting the gap between progressive ideals and lived actions in liberal spaces.

Navigating the “messy middle” — Acknowledging the challenges of life transitions and exploring them authentically.

Engaging diverse perspectives — Understanding the value of diverse friendships in broadening one’s worldview.

Creating space for conversation — Identifying strategies to initiate and sustain meaningful dialogues on race.

Recognizing systemic structures — Critiquing the pervasive impact of whiteness in societal norms and education.

Acknowledging friendship dynamics — Exploring how race conversations can shift long-standing friendships.

Addressing fear and exclusion — Understanding the role of fear in resisting inclusivity and progress.

Resources

Life-Changing with Dori Fern — A podcast focusing on life transitions and navigating change.

Co-op City — A historically significant housing complex in the Bronx, showcasing diverse urban living.

Soho House panel discussion — A notable event featuring Bomani Jones, discussing race-related themes.

Bomani Jones — Sports journalist and commentator frequently addressing race and culture.

(Written with help from Chat-GPT.)

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